Brief description of what Hanoi Joyce and Dave are doing; how they have hi-jacked the Gulf War Story (the real one), and replaced it with the government approved version.

Here is the shell game Hanoi Joyce (who was never in the Gulf War IN ANY CAPACITY in spite of her claims), and Hanoi Dave are playing.   Disinformers who want to take your attention away from the real issues will create a "fallback story" which sounds really bad, if you don't know the truth.  If you know what really happened, however, then you understand these stories disinformers put forth, are just damage control, to keep us from finding out the truth.  The trick is, that once you find out what really happened, you can see how the phony story really isn't doing damage to anyone that they claim to be exposing--in comparison to what really happened.

Mixed into the phony story, the disinformers will use all kinds of "buzz words" creating an appearance of bad mouthing the alleged enemy, like George Bush Sr., in the first gulf war, but in reality, they are saying nothing.  In order for you to hear examples of this, I would really recommend you go to the Precious Time Archives at:  http://hometown.aol.com/wbflegal/WBFPreciousTimeArchivespage14.html

and listen to hour two that is on the archive's page.  This is the hour where Hanoi Joyce Riley and her husband Dave Riley are being exposed for who they really are.  In case any of you missed it, anyone who speaks out on the real gulf war story has been censored, abused, harassed, fired, disappeared, is dead, etc.  Hanoi and Dave Riley say they want anyone to come forward with any evidence that proves them wrong, but then when someone does, Hanio and Dave, and their handlers do everything to censor and destroy that person.  Much of this is done behind the scene so that the public won't figure out that these two are scam artists with some special training and backing (see the main site on hanoi and dave for just some of the tactics they have used).  I have also been censored on hour one, and had received a death threat on the air, have been reported to the MO bar by Hanoi and Dave, as they continue to run around secretly taping people, trying to get someone to say something incriminating against me so that they can go forward with some phony claims to try to silence me (there is much more, but too much for this topic).  That is why hour two of Precious Time is just run off my site so they can't easily continue the censoring.

So here is how they work.  They get on radio shows, with preplanned call ins from their "team"  (the hosts often does not know these are preplanned calls so he or she is also shocked that so many "believe" Riley, and that they appear to be examples of what she is saying--appearing to prove her right).  Meanwhile, Hanoi  changes the subject and the issue from who did this to us (the U.S. used the chem/bio weapons in the first gulf war, against us--yes against us!  NOT SADDAM!  (see super soldier experiments below for why), and the issue is changed to "there is a gulf war illness."  Once she has effectively changed the issue, to carry on the cover up of 9 years plus, by changing the issue, then she shows documents released after the fact (the Riegle Report was never reported on for two years and of course Hanoi says b/c the media did not want to touch it--OH PLEASE!  It is back-dated!), by a Keating-five defendant, who had to do a favor to save his hide, along with New World Order minion Rockefeller, who were involved in suppressing the real cover up, to prove her point.  All these people are protecting Bush Sr., who knew of the real experiments that went on in the first gulf war that hanoi is keeping from you to protect her New World Order minion bosses.  She uses this fall back story the back-dated Riegle Report provides her to allegedly show that:  The U.S. was bad b/c we sold Iraq chem/bio's who then used them on our troops (and by the way, the Riegle report does not say Saddam used them. That is wholly her creation to take you off track.  Ask Riley how she knows that Saddam used them.  In the early days, she would just say, well we are sick, isn't that enough.  But eventually she needed some alleged proof source so she brings forth these alleged "witnesses"   who had no inside information into Saddam's camp, who say this and that--and do you know the witnesses, who are they?  If they can back-date the Riegle Report, get phony callers to call in with the preplanned rhetoric, don't you think they can get some witnesses to?   Not to say all are false witnesses, but they did not take part in Saddam's secret war plan.  They don't have any better idea than you or I would have.  Hanoi's job was to make you think Saddam did it, and that we were bad b/c we were greedy and Bush had a financial interest.  It is much worse than that folks and Hanoi and Dave know it.

Now back to the trick:  Do you see how the entire issue was rewritten from who did it to us (the U.S.) to the U.S. just merely sold weapons to Iraq who then did it to us?  Very different story, isn't it.  It's the difference between the U.S. intentionally setting us up, to opps, we shouldn't have sold those weapons, but we thought Saddam was our friend, but now we know he is bad, story.   And to make sure we believe the phony fall back story, she says generic bad things about Bush, Sr., so that we believe her, b/c she appears to be talking bad about Bush (listen to what she really says about Bush Sr--NOTHING!  That is how disinformers work.  They provide ambiguous, vague comments, that lead you to believe something, but you can never put your finger on what it is, b/c they really never said anything).  So, then Hanoi and  the Nicolsons (more phony third party experts) bring forth the "Bush had a financial interest" story for those of us who would believe that is all there is to this story.  Sounds bad until you know the truth.  Just as, in the old days, you could not know a counterfeit $20, unless you compared it to the real one, you can't know what disinformers do unless you learn the truth so you can make the comparison.  And Hanoi and Dave have suppressed the truth--which much of it is now SEALED evidence after a Federal Raid against Peter Kawaja (please see the Gas Mask story on the main Hanoi Joyce site.  You must understand what is going on here). 

Meanwhile, Riley has done everything possible to suppress the evidence that HISTORY SHOWS was there--evidence that Peter Kawaja had (and still has some--see my site for links), as an eye-witness (including federally filed documents with court transcripts proving this all happened, interviews with Ted Koppel, etc., to show what really happened, which Hanoi is fully aware of).  And Hanoi pretends that Kawaja never really was raided by the Feds, in spite of her using bits and pieces of his evidence in order to re-write history and give you "parallel stories" that keep you from the true meaning of the evidence, and that his evidence is not really sealed after 14 years, as national security, in spite of real history.  And for those who don't follow the time line, you won't understand that she is suppressing an entire story of what happened, unless you see the January 16, 1996 video (lots of spin, but it shows she knows about all of this), where she talks all about this, 5 months after Kawaja got rid of her b/c he figured out who she really was (she is not just a shyster folks, it is much worse).  And as further proof, after 9 years of suppression, and only after several of us were continually breaking the story as we had figured it out, Riley on 5-3-04, got another phony third party expert on her show, to talk about the Gas Masks and other things she had suppressed for nine years--and even though there was a total spin on the show, why did she wait 9 years b4 telling people what she knew was true for 9 years?  Hello--it is because she is the other side, and is suppressing the evidence, and only says what she has to, when she is being exposed and then only with the spin.  She only says what the real truth tellers force her to say, and then you get the spin, as she does the damage control version.  You need to read this entire site on Dave and Hanoi Joyce just to understand even a small portion of what is going on and who she and Dave Riley really are, but your knowledge of this is critical as they continue to take innocent people down these dead end paths to our destruction as they are doing on the 911 video, in plane site.  They are much worse than just greedy shysters.  And they are taking a lot of innocent people who believe in them, down the drain right into the One World Government that they claim to oppose.  And as they do, this little Eastern Starlet, pushes more of her knew age doctrine, cloaked in religiosity so that only those who have read the Bible will know the counterfeit she puts out there.  And Dave vonKleist -Riley doing the 911 video is just one more example of the same  (Too much to go into here, but ask yourself how many times Dave and/or Joyce have been accused of making up evidence--how many times is too many?  How many times does it take for us to understand that they are doing just that in order to protect their bosses folks).

So Riley gets on radio shows, changes the issue from who used the chem/bio weapons against us, to there is a gulf war illness, effectively changing the entire argument for those who don't understand that disinformers will surround themselves around the emotional issues (like the sick and dying, explointing them for selfish reasons) so we don't think with our brains, but only with our hearts, and thus, she appears right, b/c her fellow minions put out whatever she needs to "prove it,"  and at the same time they help her suppress for 9 years, the real evidence that was coming forth, b4 she infiltrated Kawaja's camp, slept with him while trying to control him, then when he figured her out, and he booted her out, she started demonizing him through secret slander and hi-jacked the story so that nobody would ever know what really happened.  And she has these fellow disinformers call in with stories that you cannot prove otherwise b/c you don't even know who they are, and for those listening, it gives phony credibility to her b/c many don't understand how evil, evil really is.  And for those few who really did suffer, as you are going to have sick and dying vets from the real experiments done on them that Kawaja was exposing, she treats many of them and their families like filth, and then exploits them by using their gory pictures and stories to get everyone emotional, and no longer thinking of what really happened and the trickery this prostitute is using. 

And as for why the U.S. used the chem/bio weapons against us:  In 1988 they were creating vaccines (not the vaccine stories Hanoi has hi-jacked every time you turn around she has a different vaccine story and reason for her alleged sickness which she never had).  The real vaccine story is as follows.  You have to understand that the troops have to do a lot of cumbersome preparation in order to defend against Chem/bio weapons.  It takes about 1/2 hour to put on the proper gear, its effectiveness is only short term, and mobility is hindered due to the cumbersome clothing/equipment.  In 1988, the U.S. was developing vaccines that would allow soldiers to go into a bio/chem theatre without the use of this cumbersome gear.  They needed to test it out.  The preplanned war, known as the first gulf war is too detailed for this excerpt, however just know that there is plenty of evidence out there showing that this war was provoked and planned by the U.S.  (please do some research--it is out here if you look).

Anyway, during this time frame, they were building a plant in Florida, and hired a guy named Peter Kawaja to set up the security at the plant.  They told Kawaja that he was putting in security for a "cherry flavoring" plant--this is confirmed not only by Hanoi Joyce herself, but by Ted Koppel in 1991, among others.

While there, Kawaja got concerned when he saw a lot of things that were not conducive to making a cherry flavoring, including having gas masks going down the assembly line as they were being tested for gas mask penetration using a by product of the cherry flavoring--Prussian Blue.  He went to the feds for help, telling them that he thought there were international terrorists working in Florida.  Unaware of Kawaja's abilities in private investigation, the Feds told Kawaja that it was Barbouti an international terrorists who created major chemical weapons' plants in other countries.  He was a public enemy of the U.S. 

So Kawaja, began watching and monitoring.  But he did much more.  He bugged the plant, and all the corporate headquarters in Florida, Texas, and in Oklahoma.  Soon he realized that it was not just international terrorists involved in this chemical plant, but that the U.S. (Congressman, and other high officials), who were working in joint venture with the international terrorist to render our gas masks and mopp gear ineffective.  So he asked the fatal questions--is the U.S. in joint venture with these international terrorists and did Bush (sr) know?  Well, soon after that, the relationship between Kawaja and the feds blew up and he was then raided just weeks before the first Gulf War broke out and much of his evidence was confiscated and sealed as national security (he had many documents, tapes, etc., elsewhere fortunately).  Kawaja was raided under a War Powers Act, which is not meant to be used against U.S. citizens and which has to have the approval of the President of the U.S. in order to execute. 

Just weeks later, we invaded Kuwait, and the war was on.  But, how did these gas masks/mopp gear experiments play into the first gulf war?  Well, the soldiers were given these experimental vaccines to see if they could withstand a chem or bio attack without the need for the gear.  But, the U.S. could not tell the military that they were being tested on, so instead, the U.S., in cahoots with the alleged terrorists they are trying to kill, made sure that our gas masks and mopp gear would not work so that the tests could be performed without their knowledge.  So, the troops went to fight for "freedom" and meanwhile they were being set up, to think they were protected when they were not.

So all these phony fall back stories, with issues about whether Swartzkopf did not make people wear gas masks are all moot.  Do you see where all this is fall back, when it did not matter if someone was wearing a gas mask or not?

Now the final piece, guess where the chem and bio weapons were?  Were they in the scuds as Hanoi says (with no proof of course)?  Well, Hanoi and Dave both know the answer to this.  They were in the Patriot Missiles--the ones who were allegedly protecting us from the scuds.  Remember those missiles that we shot up and they would intercept the scuds right over the soldiers heads and we would all applaud that the Patriot saved us?  Yes, just like disinformers to call this death missile the patriot. 

The patriot missile is about as Patriotic as the scum who did this to us and those who covered it up--and continue to do so now!   And look out on the 911-in plane site video.  You want to see disinformation at work, oh boy!  Geez folks, when will people learn!  

And in conclusion, the vonkleist - Riley's are the poster children for evil and their treasonous acts against this country, against our veterans, against the 911 victims, and against every good hearted person, including uninformed Christians (who come to her as a child, instead of coming to the world wise as serpents), who have made sacrifices for these crooks' alleged "mission," are just illustrations of how evil they are.  That they would not only mislead many to their deaths, but then spit on the graves of those who did die due to her cover up of the real evidence, as they make millions of dollars taking the donations, trust funds left for vets, and other monies that were ear marked by the faithful for the veterans.   And now they add a whole new crop of victims as they make money off those who had to choose whether to be burned alive or jump from 70th floor windows to their deaths.  Enjoy today you prostitutes, you disinformers, b/c God sees it all, even if others don't.